Over time and lots of experiences with other people, lots of other people inputting into my learning, lots of exposure to Yao and what he thought about things and also really requiring a research idea. We came together and we kind of talked about starting Esprit Concrete and I guess the question that that leads into is how did Esprit Concrete Method begin, and I think the answer to that is that kind of has always probably been but linked in to Parkour that day that I tried it or based on actually the principles of Art du deplacement, which I funnily enough found after I found Parkour.
Is there some particular topic like… because I want to ask you more fun things like for example, is there any particular lesson that you’ve learned from your mother or your father or both that stuck with you your entire life.
One. Wow. I mean as an overarching idea, everything I am is because of them. The reason I say that is because I’ve had to learn a lot from things that maybe I spent a long time criticizing. We’re quite an open family I’d say in one sense because we require ourselves to reflect. I think reflection is something I learned from them but very indirectly because if they were sitting here they would say they didn’t reflect on themselves the way that I am learning too, so I think it’s something that I learned from them that they didn’t do that they’ve always wanted me to do, which I’m very grateful for.
And of course, the final question. Three words to describe your practice.
Who am I? I think those three words… I took my sister to an exhibition that I believe was at the British Library and it was Alice in Wonderland and I’ve always found that children’s… supposedly what’s for children. Their animations, especially at the moment are geared towards concepts that are so hard for us to understand and explain and even as somebody who’s supposed to be able to, I guess, have some way of formulating things, there are certain things that are really, really hard to describe and I think that children’s films allow us to relate to coming of age things that in retrospect we realize was so hard, but we did it through constantly just changing. So, who am I? Those three words for me, I guess is something that needs to be asked before we do anything rather than every year.
I set resolutions like everyone else, but I think, who am I today? Who am I now? Who was I yesterday? Those kinds of questions I find really important to normalize that we’re going to be different and manage expectations that we have of ourselves and of others and Alice in Wonderland for me was this massive journey of discovery with the most craziest of things that you could ever imagine and I’ll never forget the fat caterpillar that was just smoking there in the background making O’s and everything felt magical even though it was kind of really dark as well and lonely and scary and there was that duality of this fantastic piece of work, this fantastic book that took us somewhere else to ask the question that inherently I find is the cost of a lot of angst for everyone and a lot of my clients, so yeah.
I think if we can make that question as magical, as exciting and as unpredictable as Alice in Wonderland and normalize that then maybe we won’t be so scared of the answer or the lack of the answer because sometimes we don’t know and that needs to be okay I guess.
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Well, I didn’t know, but there was a psychotherapist, her name’s Yano who came over. She did the workshop and I didn’t know that we already kind of knew each other from Instagram and she gave a review, unofficial review but that kind of validation from people who are in mental health work or therapists who were thinking of alternative therapies, having them attending the sessions is one thing that really, really helps because then when I’m doing things, they can also, I guess feed back on how much of something is too much. Do they think that anything else could be added to it, do they have a way of conceptualizing things that might be different and how do they think they may apply this? So, that’s always helpful, but I don’t think I’m quite at that stage yet.
So, at the moment it’s more… it’s going to be about people, I guess wanting to learn what I’m doing in a way that may be then they can promote to other athletes and other coaches so that there’s more exposure to this in normalizing that it’s not for mental illness, it’s for mental well health because sometimes the samples that we kind of come up with, samples in terms of sample work, it’s lost on people how general it is. It’s not specifically for mental illness, it’s just for mental wellbeing.
Craig: Welcome to the Movers Mindset podcast where I interview movement enthusiasts to find out who they are, what they do and why they do it. This week, Kasturi Torchia describes her role with Parkour UK and how she came to be involved in mental wellbeing and psychology studies. She discusses her family and how they impacted her journey before unpacking the Esprit Concrete Method she has developed. Kasturi shares some of her goals and what she is working on with Esprit Concrete and discusses the yearly Les Dames Du Movement event. Hello, I’m Craig Constantine.
Kasturi: Hi Craig.
Craig: Kasturi Torchia is the mental health and Duty of Care lead for Parkour UK. She is the co-founder of Esprit Concrete and the founder of the Esprit Concrete Method integrating self-development and therapy with Art du deplacement and Parkour. Her research centers on lack of progression in Parkour as part of a wider agenda on prevention of burnout in adults and children in sport. Welcome Kasturi.
Kasturi: Thanks Craig. Thanks for having me today.
Craig: Kasturi, I mentioned in the introduction that you’re the Duty of Care lead for Parkour UK, that’s your title, your position. Can you tell me a little bit what that entails and maybe let that spin out into what you’re working on?
Kasturi Torchia describes her role with Parkour UK, and how she came to be involved in mental wellbeing and psychology studies. She discusses her family and how they impacted her journey, before unpacking the Esprit Concrete method she has developed. Kasturi shares some of her goals and what she is working on with Esprit Concrete, and discusses the yearly Les Dames du Movement event.