On challenge and making mistakes

Craig: So I tell everybody, and I hope everybody out there gets this from wherever you work with. If you’re not making mistakes, like regularly, like maybe you want to 5, 20% of the time, if you don’t make mistakes, you’re not like, what are you doing, you could be replaced by a program, if you can, if you’re doing it perfectly all the time, you’re not being challenged, you’re not growing, you should always be having things that are challenging you or problems you have to solve.

Craig: So I think it’s really an important part of things not uncomfortable like, “I don’t want to do this,” but like, “Oh, this is different. Why are we adding this step?” And a lot of times we pivot things, we like figure out something new to do. And then we realize, “Oh, we can use that over here too.” So like we do one unit of work and then find three things to do with it. Of course, that pays off.

Miguel: Yeah, then get forced to think about just outside of my area.

Kristen: I think it’s also important to note going off of letting things fall on the floor is that every other job I’ve had is something fell on the floor. They’d be screaming or yelling or what did you do, why did you do this? And I remember back in December, January, when we lost our audio editor, it was like, “We’re not publishing. We haven’t published, I work so hard to get us on a bi weekly publication schedule. Now what do we do?” Craig was like, “That’s fine.”

Craig: If this is an emergency, dial 911.

Kristen: Yeah. So that’s something I think that’s also really unique is that we’re allowed to fail and encouraged to fail. And I’ve never had any other job have had close to 10 jobs now.

Craig: Well, one of the fun questions is, what’s a mistake you’ve made recently?

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