064. Naomi Honey and Melissa Way: Women’s experience, societal impact, and unsolicited advice

064. Naomi Honey and Melissa Way: Women’s experience, societal impact, and unsolicited advice

 
 
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Naomi Honey and Melissa Way discuss the importance of women’s experience in parkour, what that means, and how society impacts it. They delve into the unicorn syndrome, the polarization of genders, and how community leaders can help get more women involved. Naomi and Melissa tackle why women’s only events are important, how to create a welcoming environment, and their experiences with unsolicited advice. 

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Self Talk

Naomi Honey:
Right. So, we just had the Women’s International Parkour Weekend in London. And I didn’t do it this year, but there were two years where I did run a session specifically on that, on self-talk and the impact that it has on your movement, and that was really interesting. So, really the best way is to just talk about that briefly of what we did. We paired people up, and they had a challenge to work on of something that they could …

Craig C:
A physical challenge, right?

Naomi Honey:
A physical challenge. Mix of physical, technical, but something that they couldn’t just do, but was within their reach with some work. But we started off and I said, “Okay, so we’re going to listen to those negative critical voices.” And so, one thing was they were like, “Yeah, bring them up. What do they want to say?”

Naomi Honey:
And the other thing was that actually the rule was they had to say them out loud, and not just they have to say them out loud, but they were with a partner and they had to direct it to their partner. And so, suddenly what you’re saying about you get arrested if you said it out loud, they were having to say it out loud. And they were saying the stuff they were thinking about themselves, but they were having to direct it to someone.

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Bite-size relationships

Naomi Honey:
Exactly. And so, learning to … It feels like learning to listen with my body, and learning to respond smoothly and instantly. And it’s so fascinating. And it’s so lovely, right? Because you know how parkour is brilliant, and you have a great time and it’s lovely and social, but it’s not a kind of evening party time sport. Whereas with this, I get to go out in the evening and go to a party and it’s lovely, but I’m still being active. Because I find sitting around in the pub, it’s nice sometimes.

Craig C:
There’s also a personal space in parkour. It’s not that people have a bubble, like 18 inches of clearance. But generally, people will avoid each other. So, there’s not normally physical contact between two people moving in this space. I was going to say, have you ever heard of a thing called parcon? So. there’s a group in New York city, Andrew Suseno, S-U-S-E-N-O I think it is. And they took … There’s a type of dance called the contact improv.

Craig C:
My understanding is this started in New York City. They rented a dance studio, filled it with crash pads, put one person in the center, and physically threw other dancers at them in random orientations Raggedy Ann doll style. And the person in the center try to receive the physical other person coming at them. And then together as a team, they would try to fall and move. So, it’s literally contact improv, like, “Incoming.”

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Three words to describe your practice

Craig C:
And of course, the final question, three words to describe your practice.

Naomi Honey:
That’s so tough. All right. Three words to describe my practice. I would say playful. I really like to play around and have fun and have a nice time. To me, that is more important than anything else.

Naomi Honey:
Enthusiastic. I’m so enthusiastic. I love moving, and that’s not just … That’s the dance as well and everything. I really, really enjoy it. Naomi Honey:
went what we say to ourselves has a huge impact. And also, we think it’s completely rational and fair, and it’s not.

Craig C:
And of course, the final question, three words to describe your practice.

Naomi Honey:
That’s so tough. All right. Three words to describe my practice. I would say playful. I really like to play around and have fun and have a nice time. To me, that is more important than anything else.

Naomi Honey:
Enthusiastic. I’m so enthusiastic. I love moving, and that’s not just … That’s the dance as well and everything. I really, really enjoy it.

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The Cheerleader

Naomi Honey:
Yeah, absolutely. So, as a coach, I work with people really closely. We work one-on-one. And we look at, okay, what do they want in their lives? What are the changes that they want? And that can be practical, tangible goals, and it can be emotional stuff as well of … Sometimes my clients want more confidence, whether that’s in their personal life, at work, whatever. And so, the range of what we might work on is huge. But particularly I work with people who aren’t living the lives that they want. And often I work with a lot of professionals. So, part of my line is people who work too much and live too little, or people who are going through the motions rather than living fully. Craig’s looking very guilty here. And and I help people to really reset that balance.

Naomi Honey:
And with a very … The thing that a lot of people think is if I go and live more, live more fully, than my work will suffer and professionally it will suffer, and actually, it’s completely the opposite. Because when you are energizing yourself in between and doing all the things you need to do to feel really excited and inspired and well rested and all of that, then actually you bring your A game to everything rather than when you get dragged down and run down and you’re bringing your C game to everything. So, that’s what we work on. And it’s so much fun. I absolutely love it. And it’s a massive privilege because I get to hear people’s real thoughts, their really deep conversations. They’re much more fun than that sounds, but they’re really real conversations.

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057. Naomi Honey: Full Transcript

Craig: Welcome to the Movers Mindset podcast where I interview movement enthusiasts to find out who they are, what they do, and why they do it. This week, Naomi Honey shares her experiences learning the Brazilian dance of Forro and how it relates to her other movement practices. She unpacks her work as a life coach, what that means, how it works, and why she loves it so much. Naomi wraps up by discussing her thoughts on her current interests, the idea of success, and self-talk.

Craig: Hello, I’m Craig Constantine.

Naomi: Hi, Craig.

Craig: Naomi Honey is both a parkour and life coach. Naomi began coaching with Parkour Generations in 2012 alongside a business career before quitting her desk job altogether a few years ago. She now runs her own life coaching business, Flytality, where she helps people make the life changes they really want. Most recently, Naomi has become interested in Brazilian dance as a part of her movement practice. Welcome, Naomi.

Naomi: Thanks, Craig. It’s great to be here.

Craig: Naomi, in the introduction, I mentioned Brazilian dance, and I just want to open it up by saying can you unpack that a little bit?

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057. Naomi Honey: Dance, coaching, and self talk

057. Naomi Honey: Dance, coaching, and self talk

 
 
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Naomi Honey shares her experiences learning the Brazilian dance of Forro, and how it relates to her other movement practices. She unpacks her work as a life coach; what that means, how it works, and why she loves it so much. Naomi wraps up by discussing her thoughts on her current interests, the idea of success, and self talk.

Show notes…

  • Brazilian dance – Forro – close, intimate – movement vocabulary (started from parkour) – learned in Brazil – learning the ‘follow’ part, listening and responding with the body – dancing as a ‘party sport’ – parcon – mental health, human relationships around dance
  • life/personal coaching – ‘going through the motions instead of living more fully’ – resetting balance – allwoing yourself to energize – honored to share authenticity, hear success – coaching designed to end
  • Tools for people to use with themselves – meditation, WIPW session on self talk, saying these things out loud. Verbally practicing celebratory self talk, treat yourself like a child – acknowledge when you find something difficult, and celebrate TRYING it – giving yourself space to be bad at something – 
  • What does a life coach do? help people hit goals – framework, motivation, but also working through blocks/resistances/obstacles – moving through the block in life, not just one situation – Flytality blog, anonymous write up, connecting to others – coaching over the phone
  • Successful – what is success? looking at one angle, not the big picture – successful is not a finish line – distance traveled, knowing the journey – everyone has amazing successes, that aren’t celebrated
  • life coaching – integrating with parkour – facing fears – how to link them
  • Storytime – Gerlev, learning Danish, self talk 
  • 3 words – playful, enthusiastic, curious 
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