Craig: So let’s just start by putting you into the spatial picture a little bit. How did you get into parkour and how do you end up being a person who started Innate Movement and just like …
Dylan: Totally. Should I kinda do the whole origin story and then –
Craig: You can. I kind of avoid the origin stories, [00:01:00] but there are parts of your origin story that are gonna come in that are important, so whatever level you wanna bring in.
Dylan: Well I guess I first found parkour just by seeing one of the David Belle French news videos, and it just immediately resonated with me. I was like, I have to go do that. You know, I was one of those kind of monkey kids like many of us who were climbing on things always. As soon as I saw it, I was like, yes, I must go. But at the time I was very [00:01:30] kind of like, hippied out. I just got out of college and I didn’t want to train on concrete. I just wanted to train in the woods and feel connected to nature.
Craig: Ooh, that’s actually an interesting parallel to how they really started, right?
Dylan: Right, right, exactly. Like the Sarcelles situation, right? But so you know, I went out and I trained a little bit. This was in like, 2006 or 2007 for a few months. Then I actually broke my fibula and destroyed my ankle in like an old man flag football league.
Craig: Ow, I’m laughing ’cause they’re using the word old man.
Dylan: [00:02:00] Right, well, that’s how I thought about it at the time, and yeah, with that experience, I was like, oh, maybe I’m too old and fragile to do this. I can’t train parkour, parkour isn’t for me, which is just hilarious…
Craig: Right, you were over the hill and your life ended at what age?
Dylan: Exactly, I was like 23, which is hilarious now, you know, I’m almost …
Craig: And how much, you would give a leg to be 23 again?
Dylan: Exactly, yeah, as a person pushing 34, I was like, what are you talking about? I was like, you’re in the prime of your life. But so, at the time that’s how I thought about it so then I just let a lot of years go [00:02:30] by, and I really just kind of embraced the unhealthiness, and I sort of went for it just eating terrible things …
Craig: What’s the most comfortable sofa I can buy, right?
Dylan: Exactly, yeah, I was like this is all over, time to just … it was like hospice or something, it was time to just try to be, just make yourself comfortable and ride it out ’til the end, man.
So, a few years went by of that. At a certain point something flipped back on and I reprioritized becoming fit, and then around [00:03:00] 2013 parkour just came back across my field of view, just on the internet again, I imagine, and I was like, “You know what? No.” Like, “I can do that. I’m in the fittest, I’m in the best shape of my life.” I was like 29-
Craig: Rage quit the potato chips, right?
Dylan: Right, I was like, “I’m out of here.” Yes, I have to go do that immediately. So, the next day I just drove myself to uptown Kingston, and just started touching walls and stuff, just going into alleyways [00:03:30] and climbing on them, and just figuring it out. I didn’t know what I was doing, I didn’t really know how to start. Some of those early sessions were literally like, I would just park my car, stash my keys in the wheel well, and not have anything, and just run in a direction across the city, and just go.
Craig: Just go.
Dylan: Across everything that came, I pass, like jumping through people’s yards, and hopping over people’s dogs, and things I would never do now. Like, come on guys, you’re being very disrespectful.
Craig: Right. But Kingston is neat because the city [00:04:00] is just built up enough that it has a Main Street, and it has a bunch of shops, but then on Sunday it turns into a ghost town-
Craig: So it’s like nobody’s looking, you can run through the backyard.
Dylan: Exactly, exactly. And that’s how, the early parts of my training, that’s really what it was. During the week, I was working in an office, kind of Monday through Friday, nine to five thing, and so I would be doing push-ups and physical conditioning and hopping around in my kitchen and stuff during the week, and thinking about parkour, and reading about parkour, and being [00:04:30] obsessed with it. But the main training days would really be, yeah, those Sunday, just long sessions. Back in the day, every single time I trained was like the epic four, five hour long sessions. Like I said, that particular area of Kingston because of like some, you know, strange, one of those old-
Craig: Ordinance, city ordinance or something.
Dylan: City ordinances, exactly, where it’s like, “Oh, you’re supposed to be closed on Sunday.” So there was just no one there, and it was just this little piece of parkour paradise. It was also one of those like, security through obscurity things. No one knew what I was doing, and no one else trained, and I was the only one doing it, so-
Craig: Go in a different line every week, nobody knows [00:05:05]
Dylan: Exactly, yeah. It was just like ninja status, just in some alleyway, and no one would see me, no one knew it was happening. So, that’s obviously all different now. We need to be having more of a public face when we’re out training in groups and stuff, but back in those days it was just [00:05:20] the wild west, you had lone wolf status. But yeah, so I was doing that for a while. But yeah, I was getting a little banged up, getting sort of hurt, cause I didn’t know how to train, I didn’t know what to do, I didn’t know any of the techniques, really-
Craig: No recovery, right.
Dylan: Right. I reached out for resources, like community or coaching, in the area, and just came up totally blank. There just wasn’t anyone to train with, or who knew more than me to teach me stuff, and that’s when, eventually, just through Google searching and stuff, I found PK Gen (Parkour Generations), and through that, learned that there was an A.D.A.P.T. level one cert going on [00:06:00] in Pennsylvania, in your neck of the woods, that June. I signed up, just mainly, at the time, just to meet other people who trained. I just didn’t…
So, it was basically almost like, partly starting on the coaching journey, but also partly going to an intro parkour class. I had just, I had never met anyone who trained. So, went to that, learned a lot, and then started … At that point, I had just been [00:06:30] training with some friends, and trying to get it going, and just share with more and more people, so I just have buddies to train with.