Three words to describe your practice?

Craig: Of course the final question is, three words to describe your practice?

Sasa: Whoa, so hard question. Maybe there hardest of all of them so far.

Craig: You see right through my plan. That’s exactly why it’s on the end.

Sasa: Wow, it’s … I think [00:24:00] that I already get this question before and it’s always change, because constant progression and everything. I will say first love. Love for movement, love for people, love for everything what Parkour community is doing. Creating so much love inside. I’m here, in between 100 people, I know more than 50 people here, and we [00:24:30] hug every day.

Craig: It’s actually hard to get anywhere around here, you try to … Like you have to leave 10 minutes early, so you can stop for every hug, handshake, laugh, joke. It’s like …

Sasa: Ninja game, all this stuff. It’s love. It’s created a circle of big love between all these people. That’s magic, like that’s, yes, what this discipline did to us. Give you a lot of love, that’s for sure, number one I think, love.

Number [00:25:00] two, discipline.

Craig: That’s a good word.

Sasa: It’s here from beginning. If you discipline yourself first then you can kind of fit in this kind of community. Also, this discipline always can progress and progress and progress.

Craig: Yes, it’s a community of effort. Not a community of accomplishment or specific goals, it’s a community of effort … and that requires discipline.

Sasa: Yes, like for sure discipline is here. To all of us [00:25:30] say here, whatever this discipline is, have a name, it will change or not. It’s not important but it’s going to be always about this discipline for sure.

Third one, I think I will say people, number three. Because it’s all about people, it’s … I’ll actually quote my friend Boki. I get in conversation with him, it was like [00:26:00] he didn’t travel for places, he didn’t travel for obstacles, he didn’t travel for this crazy stuff around. He’d travel to talk.

Craig: To people.

Sasa: To talk to people, to jump with people, to do things with the people. People are key.

Craig: People are unique, right.

Sasa: Yes, well unique in that key of all this, you know. These, all the amazing connections [00:26:30] that he created and all different parts of the world, but we shortly come back for them. Yugoslavia, where we started, and I think it’s going to be good to him there because … on the end, we had this big conflict between all these countries and then what we did, early 2000s, it’s where we connect these two communities, Serbia and Croatia [00:27:00] and all these friends sharing everything between, and Parkour was the link between all these countries who had war between before. Traceurs– Parkour people were the key of this connection, and I hope they will continue all this great work. One of the great things that we did, it’s 2011, it was called first Skochy jam, it was a camping in Serbia that we have [00:27:30] people from Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia for the first time combined ever.

Craig: Wow.

Sasa: That was one of the things that made me the most proud. Organizing with all the friends, until this connection is just stronger and stronger and stronger. I hope that [00:28:00] will continue growing up in this direction. People– because we are just the people. We are not … This is not Serbia, this is not Croatia, la, la, la, there is no religion involved, there is nothing between us, there is no borders. We are people, because this is actually the most magical thing what has happened and this link between, is literally the magic [00:28:30] that combine and connect these people after so many bad things. We’ll end up with this connection because, it’s for me maybe the most important work we did so far.

Craig: Thank you very much Sasa. It’s always a pleasure to talk to you.

Sasa: Thank you man.

Three words to describe your practice?

Craig: And of course, the final question. Three words to describe your practice.

Mat: So, my first word is mindful, and I particularly like this word because [00:27:00] it makes me feel that I’m in the present moment. When I do Parkour, and I practice Parkour, I’m here. I’m now. I’m experiencing life. And to me, it’s the way of how I can live life to its fullest is by being here. And particularly, when I do different skills it heightens that self-awareness of being in the present moment.

Then my second one is being creative. I talked about [00:27:30] a lot of this during the podcast about how I love creativity. I love being a creative being. I love creating things, and so this is very important to me. Every time I practice Parkour, I’m creating something, and I don’t forget that either. Is that I like to see it as I’m a painter, and I’m painting all over with my movements.

Then the third word I have is high. So this is a little different, but [00:28:00] for me, it is a way of feeling. It’s my being when I’m actually practicing. Another word I was gonna use is connected or like connected to the universe. But I feel like high is a more accurate description because before I learned Parkour, I was looking for this highness in other different things. And I found it in other different things.

Craig: Substances. Right.

Mat: When people say, “Oh I like to get high.” They usually mean substances. But when I say I like to get high, [00:28:30] it means I like that feeling of being high, of heightened awareness of reality, of being, of experiencing life. And I get that in Parkour, when I’m moving around a different object, when I’m balancing on something, or if I’m really high up. I’m high.

Craig: Literally and figuratively.

Mat: Yeah. That’s why I love to do it. That’s what I do.

Craig: Well thank you very much Mat. It was a pleasure talking to you today.

Mat: [00:29:00] Thank you.

Three words to describe your practice?

Craig: The final question, three words to describe your practice?

Andrew: Three words. I think that I would say movement. I’ve talked about that a little bit, but just the value and the deep and raw nature of how connected we as humans are in a movement.

Then I would say love. I think that if you’re not moving with love that you’re [00:29:30] not really experiencing the full depth of movement and what it can be. I move … I like the quote from a famous runner, Eric Liddell. When asked about his running, he said he runs to feel the pleasure of God, and I think that the meaning of that may be confusing but that it’s this idea that [00:30:00] there is a deep value and purpose in doing things beautifully and doing them lovingly. When I train, I want to move with love towards others, towards myself, towards God.

Then my third word would be family. My family has meant a lot to me. I started Parkour with my brothers and sister. I’ve always trained with them. But also the family in [00:30:30] a bigger concept of the community, that my hope and my dream is that you could come back to Akron Movement Family in a couple years and you would walk in and find that there’s a family here, a family of community that has come together around Parkour and trains together, but more than trains together, that we care about each other, that we love each other, that we support each other and are here for each other.

Craig: Thank you very much, Andrew.

Andrew: Thank you.

Three words to describe your practice?

Craig: Of course, the final question. Three words to describe your practice.

Finn: Well, I have tried Parkour. Well, the first word and the most fundamental word for me about Parkour, and maybe about sport in general, [00:22:00] it is located in the word “fundamental”. It is F-U-N. Fun. If you don’t have fun, then you don’t enjoy what you … obviously, then you don’t enjoy what you are doing. You need to have fun to continue enjoying being physical active. So when we are all over the world trying to get people to be more physical active, fighting the [00:22:30] sickness of inactivity, then we need to understand that fun is the best weapon against that. And here, once again about politicians, they are nervous about the word fun. It don’t give them voters, but it is the most used and the most strongest weapon. So fun is absolutely number one.

Second is the challenge, and in some ways is related to fun. [00:23:00] You have to challenge yourself. You have to challenge your way of thinking. You have to challenge your … “They are doing this. How can I … When do I know that this is the limits of what I dare to do and all I want to do,” and that’s the perfect situation, that you challenge yourself but aware, “When do I have to stop?”

Then the last one is, for me, reflection. [00:23:30] You have fun, you challenge, but you also have to understand that what you are doing is part of a bigger picture. It can be something which is very, very, very needful and helpful related to avoid diseases or to create health promotion. It can be a social part, so you have to think about or reflect about, “What is my sport, my activity, doing in this field in [00:24:00] our society?” So fun, challenge and reflection.

Craig: Thank you very much, Finn. It’s been a pleasure.

Finn: Pleasure is mine. Thank you very much, Craig.

Three words to describe your practice?

Craig: And [00:24:30] of course, the final question, three words to describe your movement.

Paul: Difficult, heavy, pungent.

Craig: No, you did not just go there. No, for real. Three words to describe your movement.

Paul: Difficult, oh wait no … Constant, playful, engagement.

Craig: Okay.

Paul: Some by that, I guess I mean I like to be [00:25:00] engaging, not only with people but with spaces, and ideas in movement from a variety of sources, different disciplines. Playful for me, as a Capoeirista is how you attack things from different angles, how you come from above, below, from the side, and you find the pieces that are hidden in it. You find the enigmas in it. You find the places that go together. By constant, I don’t mean every [00:25:30] waking moment so much as, not becoming stagnant-

Craig: Complacent, right?

Paul: Or complacent.

Craig: Thank you very much Paul.

Paul: Thank you.

Three words to describe your practice?

Craig: All right. And of course, the final question is, can you describe your practice in three words?

Max: I was thinking of one earlier. Which I think [00:37:00] is pretty accurate, although I feel like it’s a dual edge. When I first started training, I would have said, “Jumping and thinking.” Is basically my entire training [crosstalk 00:37:12]

Craig: That’s three words. Jumping and thinking.

Max: And thinking. And “Thinking about jumping.” Those are kind of both my things. And then now, what I’ve been trying to get to is basically, “Jumping without thinking.” That’s kind of been the processes. It’s like, developing the habit, thinking about [00:37:30] it, analyzing it, tinkering with all the techniques. And then now at the point where you kind of just throw all that out the window and say, “All right. It’s all ingrained in my body. I’ve done fifty thousand, a hundred thousand repetitions. Now I just need to trust that it’s all there.” So … I guess those would be my … I guess that’s kind of like a nine word process, but … The evolution of my …

Craig: The evolution of getting down to, “jumping without thinking.”

Max: Yep. ‘Cause if you start there. You’re just going to fall [00:38:00] apart. That’s how you … That’s definitely how you fall apart as a human being. You just break immediately.

Craig: Terrific. Well, thank you Max Henry. We appreciate you time and energy today.

Max: Thank you, Craig. That was super fun.

Three words to describe your practice?

Craig: And of course the final question: Three words to describe your practice?

Caitlin: I submitted this [00:25:00] answer to your website a few months ago. I wrote that my practice is sustainable, playful and collaborative, and it definitely is. More than that now it’s definitely become about, what we talked earlier, inviting others to join me. Where I’ve gotten so much that I’ve needed out of my practice, my practice is now about getting other people to join in. Whether it’s from even just saying, “Hey, can I join you in that challenge?” Or, “Want to try this?” To [00:25:30] the movement snacks where they’re–

Craig: You’re going to facilitate the community to join you. Even figuratively join you when you’re not actually there.

Caitlin: That’s really what my practice today is about. It’s about getting others to come out and play.

Craig: Thank you very much, Caitlin.

Caitlin: Yeah, thank you.

Three words to describe your practice?

Craig: Final question, [00:30:00] three words to describe your practice.

Thomas: I should try to be clever.

Craig: You can be … I love this. This is my favorite part of the whole podcast. You can be clever, you can be deep, you can be trite. Anything you’d like.

Thomas: Deep or trite. So my words are “Be Here Now,” which dovetails with that story actually pretty nicely in that, that’s all there is, [00:30:30] is what’s happening right now. The fear of the future or the regret of the past has no real bearing in their own place. Just what you’re doing right now.

If you’ve got somewhere you got to go, you need to start walking there. But walking there, means taking one step right now. Lao-Tze said like, “A thousand mile journey begins with a single step.” That process is so true, [00:31:00] and the way that horrible, difficult, incredibly long things become fun and easy, is when you just do the step you have to do now. And then you’re like –

Craig: Right. The hardest part is believing you can start.

Thomas: Yeah, you just take a step.

Craig: Thank you very much, Thomas!

Thomas: My pleasure, Craig. So good to be here.

Three words to describe your practice?

Craig: All right, last and final question that I always end with, which is: [00:29:30] three words to describe your practice.

Jonny: Whoah. Well the first two that come to mind immediately are grateful and enthusiastic. The third one eludes me. Man, and two is a comparison. Three is a theme. I really do need a third one to make this work. So I’m going to go [00:30:00] with… uh, it would have to be grateful, enthusiastic, and caffeinated.

Craig: That’s perfect. I think you’re the first honest person who actually owned up to the drug of choice, which is caffeine.

Jonny: 100%.

Craig: It’s all about the caffeine.

Jonny: I’ve been drinking coffee nonstop throughout this podcast.

Craig: Great, because the next thing I say is, could you unpack those words a little bit? So we’ll just say the caffeine is the coffee cup that he’s been… He actually got up and filled it. I’m talking, he walked away and got the coffee.

Jonny: It’s [00:30:30] true.

Craig: So the first two words were…

Jonny: Grateful and enthusiastic.

Craig: And why? Why those the two words?

Jonny: Oh man, I’m grateful every day that I wake up and I get to move. I already was grateful, because I feel like I came to Parkour a little bit later in life. I started training when I was 31. And obviously, later in life than most people that I train with. I see you’ve bumped your head on the microphone in total dismay because Craig came to Parkour probably ten [00:31:00] years later than I did. I just say later in life than your top-level athlete, right? So you get in and you immediately compare yourself to the top 1%, as everybody does, no matter how unrealistic it is.

Craig: Right.

Jonny: And you go, “Oh, okay. Well I’ll never do that. I’ll never be that guy.”

Craig: More coffee.

Jonny: But rather than depress me, it just makes me more grateful that it wasn’t too late, you know. That I wasn’t perhaps missing a foot from diabetes, you know, or [00:31:30] on some sort of emphysema breathing machine. Anything could happen. Life takes crazy turns.

Craig: And late enough to realize that, yeah, I’m not gonna be that high-level professional person, so I’m not gonna spend any time killing myself, literally, to try to get to that level. I’m gonna take it and see how far does this body go?

Jonny: Exactly, yeah. And I’m grateful for what my body gives me every day. And I do make very high demands on my body because I want to maximize the time that I do have left. We all know you hit a peak at a certain point and I think, you know, I’ve probably peaked, if I’m not right at the peak right now. [00:32:00] And then it’s about maintenance, you know. Whatever you can do.

Craig: And the second word?

Jonny: Was enthusiasm?

Craig: They’re your words. Okay, enthusiasm.

Jonny: Enthusiasm. Man, I just was lucky enough to stumble across this thing that gets me as excited as anything else anybody can be excited about on this planet. I even look at Jiro Dreams of Sushi, here’s something that they made a whole documentary about this guy, he devotes [00:32:30] every waking moment, and I still think I’m more enthusiastic about Parkour than he is about sushi. And you know, a lot of people can go their whole lives without finding that thing. They may not ever find that driving force. But for me, we had lunch earlier today and we were talking about how, for a long time, during, for sure, the first year of my training, every training session ended … I didn’t stop til the sun went down and the little ritual was to sit down and watch the sun set and kind of reflect on my day.

And every single one, without exception, I thought, “This is the best day of [00:33:00] my life.”

That is really saying something, because as much as I love art, as much as I’ve been pursuing that for as far back as I have memories in life, I’ve never stopped at the end of a day of drawing and thought, “This is the best day of my life.” So I found this thing that gives me that consistently. It may not be every time now, because nothing’s perfect, it’s been going on four years now. There are those days where you just had a good day. It wasn’t necessarily the best day of your life, but man, there’s a good chance it is gonna be the best day of my life. [00:33:30] And how can you not just be at the highest level of enthusiasm possible when you’re having the peak of your lifetime right there in that moment?

Craig: Well, thank you very much. That’s an excellent insight to end on, right there. So this was Jonny Hart and it was a pleasure talking to you. Thank you for taking the time.

Jonny: Oh, thank you.