Team members’ side projects

Melissa: So we’ve mentioned side projects a couple of times. And I think side projects are really cool, and not something I’ve gotten to experience in any other kind of work situation. So credit to Craig for that, it’s basically allowing us to kind of and paying us to use our time to pursue something we’re interested in. And that could be adjacent to Movers Mindset and what we’re working on or it could not be, but it’s finding something that we’re passionate about, and kind of almost like a personal, yeah, professional or personal development, a growth project. So finding something that we care about that we want to pursue, that we’re being supported, kind of by Craig and the Movers Mindset project to do and to pursue, which is a really, really unique and awesome opportunity, I think.

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On challenge and making mistakes

Craig: So I tell everybody, and I hope everybody out there gets this from wherever you work with. If you’re not making mistakes, like regularly, like maybe you want to 5, 20% of the time, if you don’t make mistakes, you’re not like, what are you doing, you could be replaced by a program, if you can, if you’re doing it perfectly all the time, you’re not being challenged, you’re not growing, you should always be having things that are challenging you or problems you have to solve.

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On creating connection and starting conversations

Craig: Glad you brought that up, because that’s one of the main things about the Movers Mindset project as a whole that I’m really passionate about is creating these connections between people, the idea that everybody would love to have not just friends, like, “I want someone to go have an ice cream or a beer with,” but like to actually have a chance to sit down and talk about things and explore fun ideas. And I think a lot of people don’t have a space to find that online. So they might go to Facebook, or they might go to the social media. But it’s kind of tricky if you find a Facebook or a social media page that you really like, it’s tough, like you can’t really like interact with the storror guys too much, it’s really hard to like, get a one on one relationship with somebody.

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On crypto-currency

Ryan: Bryan Armstrong, the CEO of Coinbase had some quote recently, or last year sometime that is like, “The majority of people are actually aren’t actually going to buy crypto, they’re going to earn their first crypto through there’s all these different websites and apps and stuff that like, people don’t realize that all this stuff already exists or is like about to be here. And if you’re the early adopter, not only is that like fun and interesting and cool, and you get to teach your friends and parents and stuff.

Ryan: But if you were to just … who knows what’s going to happen, but if the more you learn about this, for most people, the more confident they get that if invest in it, or earn it or hold on to it. For five, 10 years, it’s going to be significantly more valuable than it is now. And we’re potentially looking at one of the biggest wealth transfers in the history of humankind. And I want to see the young people in Parkour, like young people in general or all people, like the younger people are going to be a little more willing to-

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On parkour and crypto-currency

Ryan: How can we match up Parkour and crypto? So we just tried our first experiment, I guess, there’s a thing called And this is built on Ethereum. And what it allows you to do is essentially say, I need this. And so mostly right now it’s being used for like software development, like I need somebody to help me code this thing. And I’m willing-

Craig: There’s my definition of done.

Ryan: And here’s my definition of done. And here’s what I’m willing to pay. It’s nothing like super revolutionary like this is Fiverr. This is some of these other kind of websites-

Craig: Except the implementation is completely new. But how it works.

Ryan: Yeah, so this is decentralized. And what we just did was we put up #Parkourbountyone. And we want to try to do more of these, to see where we can take it. But Parker bounty one was essentially, we wanted to open it up to the locals of Apex communities first, or make it easier on them at first. So we said, all all you got to do is you can take a new clip or an old clip. So even out of towners have clips from apex, you just got to post it up on your Instagram, say something you learned at Apex and submit it to this page or this link on And we’re going to take our top five favorite ones, and you guys are going to get 0.2 Ether which is I believe at the time it was worth about 30 bucks.

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On arbitrage

Ryan: Yeah. So this is a very intimidating subject for a lot of people who maybe they think they don’t deal well with tech, or they don’t understand anything about coding or whatever it may be, it’s new, they’re like isn’t that about the dark internet and terrorists or something, like we still have this stigma. And this is actually I’m used to this I got in Parkour when nobody knew what it was. And I had to like, just be patient, keep explaining it. And this is kind of where we’re at with crypto and block chain too, is we have to be patient, we have to help people understand that this is revolutionary, this can literally change the world for the better in many, many ways. And it’s not as hard as you think. And you don’t even need to know everything, but you need to at least understand like, what is application? Or how can I use this?

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On inspiration

Ryan: And specifically going to your question, I think I’ve drawn a lot of inspiration for this and this is kind of a touchy subject. I won’t get too much into it, but there are certain programs out there, where I’m kind of anti-guru, I’ll get that out of the way. I don’t want to be anyone’s guru. I don’t really like the fact that some people think they can only learn from one coach. They’re like “This is my guru. I’m going to have to put blinders on to everything else”.

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On training methodology

Craig: Training methodology, I don’t get this, people always want to talk about “I want to know how so-and-so trains, if they keep a journal.” I’m going to guess that you’re not training like you have a schedule, like “From 8:00 to 10:00, I’m doing this. And next week, I’m doing climb-ups.”

Amos: My training has been very different recently, because unfortunately the last three years I’ve been injured. That’s also something not many people know about me. It’s definitely been a rough ride, but like most things in my life, I’m very grateful for where I’m at. I have a working body, I’m so happy with what I have. But my training did change, before that, I would just play a lot. But then if I ever had a project in mind, I was pretty methodical. I’d spend a lot of time working certain lines. So I had two dance injuries, one, I don’t know if I can call one of them dance, it was like goofing off. I was trying to make this girl laugh, and I fell in weird way, and got my foot caught on this wall. I just fell in an odd way, and it hurt my knee, and I ended up sustaining a year-and-a-half injury from it. She didn’t even laugh.

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On goals

Craig: If you get up and you have a free day, which maybe all eight of them, that’s awesome, if you get up and you have a free day, do you have “My goal is to be the emperor, so here’s my 12-year plan.” Or do you just “What do I want to do today?” Because I’ve been to Boulder enough to know there’s a different vibe here, I’m from the East Coast where I did a three-point-K-turn when I missed a thing, and I’m just like, “I’m doing the turn.” And everybody was like, “It’s all good, bro. Go ahead.” And I was just like, “Oh right, this is not the East Coast.” Do you set out with goals, or do you just go whichever way the wind blows you?

Amos: I see value in both, and I’m actually a huge fan of both. I won’t dodge it. I think back to something a lot of people don’t know about me, most of my 20s, I was homeless, and I lived on the street, I traveled on my bicycle, ate out of the trash. That whole gig, very different life.

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Failure is part of the equation

Craig: Jean, I know I’m jumping around, but is there… imagine you’re a time machine. And could you have gone back and told yourself something back on the sofa to speak figuratively, that you think might’ve gotten you off the sofa sooner or something that would’ve motivated you?

Jean: Yeah, I think that failure is part of the equation. If you start something… if everything you do guarantees success, you’re not going to ever expand and do more. Also find something that’s really fun to do. So back in high school you have to go to PE and you’re doing these whatever things that you absolutely hate and there’s nothing really fun about it. And if you find something fun, this is what I tell my clients to find an activity you enjoy doing and you’re not really working out. Like I said, like the aerialists, I know they’re doing pull ups, they’re doing crazy amazing things. But no, they didn’t plan to do it. This is just their fun activity. So really find something that you really enjoy.

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On corrective exercise

Craig: Is there anything else that you want to share that you want to talk about related to training or…

Jean: Yeah, so in my younger days it was like let’s go as hard as you can. How many pull ups can I do and how many push ups can I do and more is better. And as I’ve gotten older I’ve realized too, I’ve become a corrective exercise specialist that our daily living is really causing a lot of problems with our bodies and until we fix those we really can’t safely be doing those other activities, especially as we get older. So I want to say at this point 70% of my workout is probably mobility and prehab type things. And then 30% is go out. All heart as hard as you can. But it’s all in moderation.

Jean: But I do feel a lot stronger now than I did 10 years ago. I can do more pull ups, I can… and there are better form than they were.