Travis: [21:45] If I can share one boastful …
Craig: [21:48] You can share as many as you like. It’s our podcast episode.
Travis: [21:51] “This is me, and I am amazing.” At the YMCA that I teach at, there was a complaint … I had talked to a different person from a different class. They weren’t ending on time, which was greatly impacting my setup period. I had 15 minutes to set up.
Craig: [22:09] Right, right.
Travis: [22:09] So if they end five minutes late, they get their people out five minutes …
Craig: [22:13] Yeah.
Travis: [22:13] Now I have a little less than five minutes to set up.
Craig: [22:16] Four minutes and 32 seconds.
Travis: [22:16] Right.
Craig: [22:17] “Go.”
Travis: [22:19] It was quite stressful. I waited 10 class periods to …
Craig: [22:22] Yeah, call the management…
Travis: [22:24] … be forceful. I had talked to them many times. “Listen, this isn’t really working.” Like, “Ah, it’s fine. We’re getting used to the new schedule.” Eventually, I just said, “This … Next week, you’re done. This is the time.”
Travis: [22:35] Another student heard this. Right? Older, adult, and she was livid and complained to the YMCA. But … Now onto the boastful compliment. So the director that took this complaint from this person said, “Listen. People come to Travis even if they don’t like parkour. They hear about him as a teacher, and they will put their kids in his class.”
Travis: [22:56] It was neat to hear somebody say something like that, because, so often with parkour, the most unrewarding part is you get to see them for an hour. You get to see this person for an hour, but the changes that come about through parkour are so transcendent through their life. Sometimes a parent will come back or a student will come back and say, “Listen. This is how you’ve changed me.”
Craig: [23:20] Right.
Travis: [23:20] “This is how” … You’re like, “Oh.”
Craig: [23:23] “Wow. Thank you for sharing that. I hadn’t even noticed that.” Right?
Travis: [23:27] Right, right, because you don’t get to see it. You get an hour out of their … however many hours they get their week.
Craig: [23:32] You only see one asset or one facet of their life.
Travis: [23:35] Correct.
Craig: [23:35] You only see them physically moving, unless something really exceptional happens. You only see them physically moving, and you might see the changes in their body, but you don’t know what their home life is like and what their job is like and all those other parts.
Travis: [23:46] Every once in a while, you get that feedback, and it’s just … It’s an ounce of what you do, but the … How rewarding it feels to just hear that impact. I don’t know. Those are the things that I hold onto when things get difficult, when time is not available to …
Craig: [24:06] Yeah.
Travis: [24:06] You’re just kind of at your end’s wit.
Craig: [24:08] You feel stretched. Right?
Travis: [24:09] Right. You realize, “Remember, this is why I’m doing it.” It’s not about the jump. The jump is important, but the jump is like the method to get what we really …
Craig: [24:18] Yeah, the jump is a piece of your tool set, but it’s not the work.
Travis: [24:20] Right, right. It’s not the point. You come in and can lift the one leg, and, okay, maybe you can’t jump. Maybe you come in with no legs. You can’t jump. It’s not about the jump. It’s what you get through it. We can get caught up in it. We can get caught up in the physical and just the visual spectacle of it and forget that that’s not what it’s about. That’s not originally what the training was for. It’s how we got …
Craig: [24:48] Right.
Travis: [24:49] Right. It’s how we progressed. It’s how we got to where we are now. But it was never the original point, to just be a good jumper.