Transcript for “Challenge – with Seth Ruji”

Episode, Challenge – with Seth Ruji.

00:00.00
Craig
Hello I’m Craig Constantine welcome to the movers mindset podcast where I talk with movement enthusiasts to find out who they are what they do and why they do it. My guest today is Seth Ruji welcome Seth how are you.

00:13.52
Seth
Hey great. Thanks for the invite I’m doing well and excited to be on.

00:19.21
Craig
My pleasure. Um I always have a none ideas of where we can start. Um, let’s start with ah ah years ago like literally years ago, you may have forgotten we did a mover’s mindset did a thing where we sent out like a little blunt instrument. You know about like some basic questions and people answered different things. And None of the questions was I actually have the the document one of the questions was how do you develop the mentors the mental side of your practice and and now it strikes me as like I wish I had your answer from years ago because now there’s like the whole new Seth right? like you know years, go by and you’re different every each of us is different every year but I’m I’m wondering when I say. Mental side of your practice. What are the types of attributes that come to mind and and maybe how do you think about developing those things.

01:03.73
Seth
Yeah, it’s a great question I’m curious to what my ah answer was at that time. It’s definitely changed. But.

01:07.77
Craig
I Will I can read to read it to you Your your answer was your answer was just going to skip this one because it’s too hard to write out. Ah so I’m like you know what? it.

01:15.98
Seth
Nice, awesome quality answer quality that.

01:21.44
Craig
Think I remember well it struck me that you had more to say than you felt like banging on on a keyboard is why I wanted to come back to it.

01:27.79
Seth
Ah, absolutely yeah, so I think at least at least in this moment 2 things kind of jump out in mind one is the discipline side of like. Having the mindset and mentality to be able to structure and be disciplined in my training so that I can be incremental and continue to progress. Um at a a more standard steady rate and having a planned out.

01:51.87
Craig
Um.

02:00.90
Seth
Here’s what I’m trying to get good at at the at the current moment or recognizing what my strengths and weaknesses are and kind of that side of just being able to identify and ah follow through on knowing that if I have a plan that will help me to get better. It will. As long as I execute that plan I can continue to make progress and then the other side of it is the more hardcore specific side of challenging yourself to scenarios that you feel are uncomfortable with your current skill set.

02:19.93
Craig
Um.

02:35.38
Craig
Um, who that’s a greek.

02:37.32
Seth
Um, or often that looks like doing a jump or a move either at height or that there’s increased risk because you recognize that you. Don’t have the level of confidence in your ability or consistency or control to be able to execute that 100% of the time or know how to fail safely and appropriately so.

02:58.16
Craig
Um I I like I like I notice I’ll will read I will point out in case emails missed that that you said don’t feel comfortable with your current skill set which is a spectacular way to. To phrase that to like force yourself to look at it and go yeah, it’s okay that I’m not comfortable with that and like what can I do to make it so that I might be comfortable with that. Um, you had a fairly recent Instagram video reel whatever they’re calling on these days of like a parking deck. It was a. Ah, not I mean it was a relatively simple. You know I think it was like a double Kong but it had None story drop and it was a bit of a long thing and you had apparently been coaching and it was there a whole bunch of things. So when you said that you also mentioned about. The specifics of today. So this is something that I need to be understand I’m not comfortable because of my skillset and I may not be comfortable because of my specific situation. Ah all of which strikes me as but wish you’d type that out here say oh I’m wondering like has that always been has Seth oh like if I you know, go back in time and ask your. Your mom or your dad or your best friends has Seth always been the guy who had ah that circumspection way of looking at you know self-development or is that a fairly new thing for you or.

04:17.30
Seth
I don’t know if I’ve always had that but definitely kind of since probably mid late high school I kind of developed that that mentality and a little bit of background before getting into ourour I did distance running primarily cross country and track. Also did like some swimming and things. But really my what what? I’ve in hindsight recognized was that the thing that I enjoyed most about those activities wasn’t necessarily the physical side or the runners high. But. The aspect of being able to set a challenge and see a clear achievable goal towards that. So um, in high school. It was just like specific increasing my time but then I was looking to I’d set out like kind of a 3 to None ar running plan of like wanted to complete ah a marathon an ultramarathon a triathlon. Like at these set time frames which ironically enough ended up not doing any of those because I stopped doing cross countryry and started doing park war instead but ah actually just completed my none marathon this year and did my none triath on last year so still coming back in. Oh.

05:18.60
Craig
Are.

05:23.89
Craig
Um, congratulations not dead yet right.

05:31.16
Seth
Yeah, yeah, but ah, a big part of it really is just with that mindset of recognizing that just because you can’t do something now doesn’t mean that you won’t be able to do it down the line and it’s It’s so important in mental practice and any time you have anything that has that.

05:41.42
Craig
Are.

05:49.99
Seth
Potential for risk is recognizing what is the value that it can provide to me in the moment if I were to do this because there’s that chance if if you don’t feel totally confident with it then you should probably just say not today and and look at it. As this is something I can come back to when I feel more comfortable confident and and know that I can do it safely or even just knowing that I can that might I can trust my gut a lot more. So finding I think a big part of what parkhor is is about that. Ability to self identify risk and recognize what it is that you’re currently capable of um and not just capable in terms of sure I’m physically capable of jumping this far but am I physically capable of jumping that far with a 99% accuracy that I know that I can do it every single time or that I know that if I don’t do it correctly. I know that I can assess all of the potential. Ah fail scenarios so that I can minimize or even just.

06:49.21
Craig
Um.

07:03.95
Seth
Balance out which of these are actually things that I rationally need to be afraid of versus are just irrational fears. So.

07:11.28
Craig
Um, do you? This is going to sound like it’s a completely non in sequitur. But um, are you more drawn today to working in I’m going to say working in that mental space like clearly that you’re you’re drawn to that but are you drawn are you more drawn to doing that for yourself or for. Sharing or maybe trying to like light that passion in other people like you know the None thing like do versus teach which of those in the mental mental growth context which of those calls to you more do or teach.

07:44.51
Seth
You know that’s ah it’s a great question I don’t know if I am particularly drawn towards either because I think that they are hand in hand in a sense like um I and I enjoy the personal challenge. Um. That that is ah become a large part of my identity and how I grow and what I look to do what a big part of why I do that and the purpose behind it is really to inspire others and help. Help others to be able to kind of break those misconceptions about what they are and are not capable of um I’ve been fortunate that I’ve always had that mindset that I can think like nothing is is impossible if you put in the focus to ah.

08:23.40
Craig
Um.

08:37.63
Seth
Prepare yourself for it. So I can’t remember who the quotes by but I’m going to take a second to make sure I word this correctly, but ah luck is when opportunity meets preparation and I think that’s a huge one that I that I try and keep in mind because. It’s not just that people are getting lucky most of the time because they have some ridiculous opportunity. It’s very rare that somebody walks in it’s like hey do you want a million dollars right ah it exists but more often it’s somebody has.

09:06.12
Craig
Yeah, the lottery style luck right.

09:15.41
Seth
Put themselves in situations to be able to have those opportunities for success. Um, and that’s usually through preparation by meeting the right people by going to the right events by doing their own discipline to become the best that they can be and that’s where. Opportunity really meets ah what you’ve prepared.

09:34.82
Craig
Um, yeah, the act as if wisdom of withinsanity and safety acting as if you are the thing that you want to be and then lo and behold people via their None impression will assume that that’s what you are.

09:52.16
Seth
Bread.

09:54.14
Craig
And then opens up the door. Um, yeah, ah I always hesitate people who know me well know it’s because I’m thinking of 90 things and I’m trying to pick one um as anything flaming top of mind for you. Do you might talk about the studio you want to talk about um acro Yoga. You want to talk About. To swings you gonna talk about challenge’ talk about Knee Rehab What do you.

10:15.82
Seth
Ah, um I don’t know I think I know I know something that just comes to mind is as you mentioned Rehab is so I’ve been going through a number of different injuries over the past several years I’ve had ankle issues shoulder issues, knees and. Just recognizing how much my practice has changed as I’ve grown older gotten more ah ah more injuries and just starting to kind of transition away from being as focused on being a professional. Air quotes athlete or whatever. Whatever you mean by that but just trying to shift my focus into more about I’ve I’ve been in the parker community for almost twelve years at this point and since I’ve gotten to. To be pretty heavily involved. Go to go to a variety of events compete in international competitions as well as get to see the behind the scenes of a lot of different organizations and now I’m really excited I think my next phase is continuing to kind of grow my own studio swift movement studio but then. Through that being able to provide opportunities for the upcoming generations being able to host competitions being able to have ah a number of coaches who can have a sustainable career that they can live off of just coaching parkor and being involved in it.

11:46.19
Craig
Um.

11:49.15
Seth
And being able to use the the experience that I’ve gained as a way to um, kind of kind of grow the community and and build opportunities so that it’s an easier path for people going forward. So.

12:04.82
Craig
Um, you make a bunch of I’ve been saying this a lot recently I I hate the fact that I have to talk after people talk because I’m like I don’t want to say anything because it sounds like I’m summarizing um, ah so ah, step 1 give me the domain name for the studio.

12:21.40
Seth
Yeah, it’s http://swift-movement.com

12:24.35
Craig
Thank you? Um, people should go there. Check it out. Don’t make me guess I think I know what City it’s in but tell me I always would rather ask rather than guess and then people hear the wrong thing and then I planted the wrong guy you know don’t think about a pink Elephant Oh Pink Elephant So that’s one thing I don’t want to touch on is that.

12:32.46
Seth
Cincinnati Ohio.

12:38.85
Seth
Yeah.

12:43.78
Craig
The other thing is um, we seem to be on a thread here about like circumspection and um, my first thought when you mentioned that you’ve been doing this for a while and that you’re starting to in my opinion have a bigger perspective on what you’re trying to do um my first thought was. If you could write a letter to yourself 10 years from now so that we’re going to time capsule it for a decade. Um, but your future selfs Only going to read it once like you can’t like Study. It’s like I’m I’m going to dig it out I’m going to hold it up and you got to go then I’m gonna take it away so it’s got to be pretty. You know. So What would you tell yourself 10 years from now that you think you might actually that might be helpful.

13:23.65
Seth
Oh man I don’t even I don’t know not a lot comes to mind to be honest, but I think um, ah a big part of it is is just to not be too hard on myself I tend to ah. Set pretty grand ideas and goals and sometimes unrealistic expectations about the things that I can accomplish um and trying to be more drowned in making sure that I’m enjoying the process just as much as I enjoy accomplishing the goals. Um yeah I think like 1 None big aspect that we haven’t touched on yet is in addition to running the studio and training myself I also am a full-time software engineer. Then that kind of keeps me busy all the time and it’s it’s constantly a battle of like I can’t tell you how many days I’ll I’ll work my None to None and then go to the gym. Be there from None to 11 and it’s working twelve fourteen hour days um so that.

14:31.25
Craig
Our yeah.

14:38.73
Seth
Recognizing that I that I know that I won’t be able to keep that up forever. Um, and that I have to ah be realistic in my in my own expectations and assumptions of what I believe I can accomplish.

14:51.96
Craig
Um, you don’t have to go into the depths of what you do for your job if you don’t want to um, but what my thought was I was having a conversation with somebody recently about programming and I was saying. Yeah if you want to be good at programming you have to be really the type of person who enjoys frustration. Have to just be like this. This isn’t working and I can’t figure it out and it’s going to take three days while I you know, read books or find friends or you know search um and the person that I was talking to. We were were both in the parkor context and. We both realized you know that’s kind of like the same thing with park core. You have to really be the type of person who joys being frustrated, not mortally wounded but just be like oh I this yeah I can get my ab zion off or whatever. Um, so I guess my question is is. Ah, none of all, do you agree with that like do you find that what you’re doing for work can be frustrating but that you somehow seem to thrive in that frustration and then do you agree with my train of thought that that kind of feels like the same thing that draws a lot of us ah tells what what draws me is the. Enjoyment of the challenge and the frustration that we find in part core for ourselves.

15:57.10
Seth
I mean oh I think you kind of nailed it I don’t have too much to ad but I I do think there’s a lot of overlap in the mindset of embracing challenge I know there’s a couple of different parker organizations who use that. Ah, pretty heavily and I I definitely try to use that as a healthier reminder because sometimes it does get too frustrating and I think a big thing that I like to use both in coaching in my own progression and thinking in in a software context I was reading. I believe the book was called the now habit and it was on procrastination and a big thing that I picked up from that was that most of the time that one one of the facets of why people procrastinate is because they have a challenge that it’s at. A level that’s too high for where they currently are and they don’t have the tools to be able to do it so really with par four with programming and really any kind of larger goals is just being able to break it down into a. Smaller chunk and and being able to just kind of find what is your current achievable task or or even just having a hypothesis and being able to go through and test that hypothesis. Um, so being able to work through things None step at a time.

17:23.40
Craig
Um.

17:28.67
Seth
Um, and recognizing that if you can just continue to make a little bit of progress that’ll help you get to where you want to go.

17:34.43
Craig
Is a great point about about appropriate goals or saying goals or reachable goals. Um, ah I have a friend who said that it takes something to the fact that it takes a very special person to be able to set a goal that you can’t. Achieve and at first I bridled them went no, that’s easy. Um, you know I’m I’m going to swim to the moon there. That’s a goal that I can’t achieve but then I realized I’m like oh maybe they meant like if you what does it mean to actually set a goal so I want to swim to the moon that isn’t even a that’s not even a goal like that’s not even a thing. And frankly Craig Run a marathon tomorrow isn’t a thing but run a marathon you know spring of next year like oh I got lots of examples of people who’ve done that and I know where to start and we’ve talked ah 2 different places here in this little mini conversation about setting goals and I think you have a very um. Healthy way of looking at goal setting of like yeah I set a goal but I can also unset them I can also move them and I’m I’m not a person who sets no goals and therefore okay, you know that person would need a different sort of medicine kind of thing. Cool but there I go talking and summarizing which I don’t like to do.

18:45.40
Seth
Yeah, oh absolutely I mean I am a very goal driven person and I try to apply that both in my training my my lifestyle my family and and really I find it super valuable in all aspects of whether I’m trying to focus on self-improvement. Ah.

19:06.70
Seth
I’ve I’ve found that there’s really not I get accomplishment through achieving those goals so by going through and just setting achievable goals and and working through things step by step I find that to be my way of just being able to. Develop who I am and continue to push forward None of my other favorite quotes is um I see if I gonna remember I think this one was actually by Benjamin Franklin don’t quote me that that’s who it was by but be I know it wasn’t I can’t remember.

19:27.30
Craig
Nice.

19:41.75
Seth
Ah, but it’s basically just your happiest when you’re growing Um, and.

19:46.50
Craig
That’s a good pithy quote I think you and I should sit around one day and just like do quote just do quote Tic Tacs you quote something I just see how far we go but before we do that? Um I’m watching our time slip away. Oh Let’s just say and of course the final question 3 words to describe your practice.

20:03.70
Seth
Yeah, um I think one which has been pretty apparent here is just the self-improvement focus is it’s not about a specific. Um what it is I’m trying to Accomplish. It’s just about that process of finding my limits. And and working toward that None is probably discipline. Um, it’s super important to me to be structured and consistent and have have a plan for what I’m working On. Um and third is ah probably just adventure. Um, through through parkour I’ve been able to open up my perspective on life a ton and it’s created so many different opportunities that I I am immensely grateful for and has totally changed how I view the world. So yeah, that’s. Ah, to my 3.

21:02.72
Craig
Terrific. Um, yeah, thanks Seth. Um, we’ve you’ve been following I think you’ve been like a fan of the podcast for a long time I’m like why have I not I have a long list of people I’m like I got to reach out to Seth. So thanks for. Jumping in and taking a chance I know it can be a little bit like what is this going to be so thanks so much for sharing and I hope you enjoyed it half as much as I did Thanks.

21:24.61
Seth
Yeah, of course, thanks for having me on Craig I appreciate it.