Transcript for “Longevity – with Bryce Clarke”

Episode, Longevity – with Bryce Clarke.

00:00.00
Craig
Hello I’m Craig Constantine welcome to the movers mindset podcast where I talk with movement enthusiasts to learn who they are what they do and why they do it. My guest today is Bryce Clarke welcome Bryce how are you this evening?

00:13.16
Bryce
Hi Craig thank you for having me I’m doing well.

00:35.70
Craig
My pleasure I’m glad to hear you’re doing well um, I’m always torn sometimes I have things that I really want to make sure that the guests talk about and sometimes I’m just like I I’ll follow you but I kind of think I had this is sort of a rare chance for me to like let’s talk a little bit about parkour in New York city um you know like in 3 words or less describe… you know, but I’m just wondering there are people all over the world right? who look at New York City you know it’s it’s the Big Apple. It’s New York city and I lose sight of the fact that it’s quite a privilege of mine that I can just go there. Um, and there a lot of people obviously who in New York City do Parkour but just if you had the like. You know, take me on the tour of like what is parkour like in the city like how are the spaces out of the you know what does it feel like to be in this way that never sleeps to be cliche and to be jumpled on shit.

02:02.46
Bryce
Um, I mean there’s there’s literally spot. There’s literally Jumps I don’t want to say spots but there’s jumps everywhere with the way the city and the architecture is designed um and then. You know, let alone you have a lot of playgrounds that are designed specifically with challenges that I think only parkour eyes would be able to see certain perspectives would be able to see so maybe even rock climbers would look at certain.

03:02.60
Craig
Are.

03:06.52
Bryce
Architectural designs of like children’s playgrounds and be like oh that looks like a v 5 right? or something. So I think um I think ah I think a lot of our public spaces are conducive to.

03:25.84
Craig
I Have yeah.

03:39.76
Bryce
Like I don’t want to say play because we definitely need more but like a lot of our spaces are con do to like multiuse because New York can only really build up. We don’t we can’t build out like la because of the burrows and the way the city is set up. So um. I think they’re constantly reinventing ways to create space where they can like manifest as much as possible within a small area but still make it feel like it’s open or there are definitely sections where certain. Ah. Things can happen like sitting areas or a designated walkway pats. But again just those type of like priorities when designing a space I think caters to parkour spots or parkour jumps because the way. Things are so condensed and small sometimes they’ll put seeding areas very close to um ah like a fountain which you know could present like a running precision gap. Um, and then you always have scaffolding everywhere so scaffolding just ah promotes yet.

05:59.10
Craig
Are. Yes, everywhere dirty stampling everywhere.

06:04.78
Bryce
Wearing it sometimes it stays up sometimes it stays up forever and sometimes it’s up for like six or eight months and then it’s down but there have been spots in New York where it was a great spot before and then scaffolding has gone up for None or eight month or a year period and the spot becomes. Ah, enhanced with more capabilities and like more challenges because the scaffolding is providing things that weren’t there before which usually entails swinging or laches or pole cats or you know bar work type stuff and I think New York ah ah,

07:16.12
Craig
Are.

07:20.94
Bryce
Has kind of a monopoly on like always trying to like reinvigorate spaces especially like public ones. Although um I think the one downside is they keep changing the same ones over and over whereas there are spaces that could definitely use. Renovation and like work that seem to be um, put on yeah, put on like the back burner of the project List. You know So The one qualm is that the same spot seem to be changed but the ones that are great that may be decrepit or the ones the areas that are are.

08:17.94
Craig
Um, Stag man or dad.

08:38.74
Bryce
Great potential. Don’t seem to always get the most attention they deserve and I guess you know we could prelude that with we could prelude into that with like what parkour and we see was kind of like meant to do which was create a sense of community within the city. That would eventually get us recognized through a guerrilla type of marketing means that we exist and that there was a need for these kind of spaces especially as time moves on and this becomes more of a normal thing. Today I was at the new parkour park that lap set designed by the sanctuary spot. So it’s almost done but the bars and everything are all set up so we have one in Betsy head Brooklyn and this one will be in the upper west side which is great because it definitely says on the map new parkour area so they’re using the word.

10:10.12
Craig
Are.

10:38.40
Craig
Um, right? Yeah, really.

10:27.70
Bryce
Which is already to me like okay we’re we’re breaking the glass ceiling. Um, so and to do that in America with the whole you know I’m going to sue my bathroom maker because I slipped in my own tub mentality. Um.

11:02.80
Craig
Um, but the.

11:00.64
Bryce
I Think that’s definitely a big stride forwardward but parkour and why C was always meant to be a community driven think tank engine philanthropic Gluten-ree vegan but it was always meant to be like um.

11:34.74
Craig
Um, no animals were harmed to the making of this colors of our.

11:39.34
Bryce
The goal was to I started training before Parkco and whisy was I guess the thing it was you know there was it wasn’t parkour and we see but there was Exo Thomas Shah Mike it was oasis um it was New York parkour and nypk that type of thing and we were doing jams on Saturdays. Ah. Fast forward. We all grow up a little bit so we all kind of get a little bit more responsibility added with you know our current situations in life and we don’t train as much like we used to and I wanted to bring that back. So I just was like let’s do Saturday jams and then I was like hashtag parkour say and it took off from there and I just made an Instagram page with the whole mindset. Being like I’ll create this thing and I’ll be kind of like the low key head of it without promoting myself as it but I’ll promote it as park where one c and a collective that way eventually, we can be seen by people as you know whether it’s the government. New York city government where it’s like okay like they’re skaters. They need a skate park or else. They’re just going to keep skating on city hall and we’re just gonna keep helpinging at them to go away. So let’s just allocate some money so we can make them go away forever. But we’ll also give them what they want now. Um.

14:00.38
Craig
They’re going to skate on everything right.

14:12.86
Craig
My.

14:05.82
Bryce
Think we’re getting that a little bit with the parkour park but parkour we see was just meant to build awareness while also allowing me to still be able to feel like I did when I started training at jams which is like you know it’s fun. It’s it’s all about progressing and not being too hard on yourself and chilling with everybody and having a good time. So while trying to maintain staying true to that nature I also wanted to create something that would elevate the the community and the culture within the city because we are like None of the cities like it’s us in la when people think of America too. So like we’re in a very conglomerate.

15:26.58
Craig
Um, right.

15:23.48
Bryce
And like very like star on the map type of city where there’s no reason that parkour shouldn’t be like a very well-known thing here. Um and a very well-known accepted thing that people do because.

15:50.72
Craig
Are.

15:51.00
Bryce
There are so many more 14 and like fifteen year olds that I’m meeting now that are starting parkour or have been doing it for like 5 years and I started at 19 So for them to start at 10 and they’ve been doing it 5 years and they’re like 15 now that means that when they’re my age if they keep with it. They’re going to be potentially like if this goes to like.

16:40.60
Craig
Um, yeah.

16:29.62
Bryce
Or if they choose whatever sport. But I mean they might be Olympic long Jumpers right? when they get to high school if they do parkour a young Age. So The whole mentality is just to kind of like cultivate something that. Kids can come into if they don’t have a team sport or something that they kind of already like but they enjoy parkour and they don’t know where to do it. It was meant to kind of get the kids that don’t fit within the team sport range that parents can sign them up for but then they also are kind of like in a range where. If. They’re not the teams that they can be On. They have to try out for so like what if they don’t want to be on a team but they still want to do something right? Parkhor is an outlet for those kids where um, they don’t have to just have that idle time and at the end of the day. It’s keeping them fit which is fun because like they don’t realize how strong they’re going to get if they start.

17:58.20
Craig
My something organized.

18:08.94
Bryce
And a younger age and then keep doing it with all the resources now to for like longevity and how to do it the right way. Um, like the the way that these kids will surpass us one day is going to be amazing. So I just wanted to create something.

18:47.40
Craig
So a question flick the way that you’re describing your experience with I’m going to say discovering and falling in love with parkour I’m wondering because if you were talking about wanting to. Either recreate or to make sure that the opportunity still exists for others to experience that kind of discovery for themselves and I’m wondering like is there a give a concern that because parkour is becoming more. i’ going to say more visible like you know now we have world chases ta and now we have Wikipedia pages about it and you know anybody go Youtube like when you started you had to be really proactive. You had to like get a hint that it existed and then really work to find a spot for another person or a video. And then you had to go out into the city and you know, um often I think of Manhattan when I see New York but New York is enormous and Manhattan’s just none of it and there’s a ah way that you are you know you specifically got brought up because you had to be that proactive.

20:15.74
Bryce
Right.

20:59.28
Craig
Sneaker of your own behalf and I’m just wondering. Are you concerned that because it’s so much easier now for hate say kids these days. It’s so much easier now for people to like get into it. Oh moms saw both in boder the school and on a mailing and there’s 6 things to choose from the summer one of them is part for like it’s so easy. Are we goingnna lose something because kids are gonna go like this soccer baseball park or I guess I’ll do parkour.

21:24.54
Bryce
Oh no, absolutely not absolutely not if anything the parkour people my age and a little bit older are going to gain because we’ll have more jobs The market will be saturated and we’ll be able to eat which we’ve never done before and we’ll get the glulu lemon sweat Pans Craig No more russell.

21:54.58
Craig
Um, do I.

22:00.92
Bryce
Blue blue lemon. Um, but then you know it’ll just become so normal that it’ll become like baseball right? and that would be awesome because then even like when you know I get to an age and maybe I’m not teaching like. Every kid might know how to do ah a precision the right way at at the end of this and every kid might know how to do a lachet the right way where they don’t peel off on the monkey bars which is the number None thing I see when I’m doing something in ah in a park with a kid or working in a playground I see kids peel or parents tell me all the time.

23:05.48
Craig
Are you.

23:19.92
Craig
Um.

23:12.82
Bryce
They fall off the monkey bars because they don’t know how to let go and they peel off which is like you know, a very simple thing to learn when you’re you know, working with ah a par core coach right? That’s like maybe number 1 number 2 None thing you’ll learn but how to let go of a bar but um, with that said, no I don’t think we’ll lose anything I don’t think we’ll lose the passion for it.

23:41.66
Craig
My.

23:52.72
Bryce
When I started I was actually put on by my friend and he brought me to my none jam which is where Mike and Shaw were and Ryan Doyle and a lot of other people back in the day and that’s where I made my first connections with the Manhattan Community and people around and then from there. It was pretty much just Facebook messaging on where the spots were. So um, even though it was still grassroots. Ah, ah the most proactive I think I had to be was just go on Facebook and and be like oh hey, anybody train today this and that would make a status. Um, so again, it was pretty easy for me. But I think we’re gonna gain more and ah.

24:51.30
Craig
You were still following others. What’s that.

25:06.60
Bryce
People that have been doing parkour that are coaches or wanna be coaches are gonna have more opportunity for work and I think kids are going to just be able to be more well-rounded athletes and again with the with the the norm becoming like everyone does parkour.

25:53.62
Craig
Um.

25:44.46
Bryce
The way everybody like is able to you know? um I don’t know yeah walk exactly right? then but like yeah breathing right? breathing while sleep and free and australias. But then the sleep Apnea people. Oh wait. Let’s do that.

26:02.56
Craig
Walk but I was just thinking about everybody game a walk fell by. Okay, what’s we’ll call walking Ubiquitous Yeah i’ thinking for every example, you give me I could probably just roll my eye.

26:19.38
Bryce
Um, I’m not I’m not gonna be able to publish this comvo. We’re hitting too many button mark. But um I think with that it would also allude to like government being like more accepting of like the fact that parkour is an inherently dangerous thing. But so is again just being in the playground.

26:40.38
Craig
Ah, no push all the buttons. But.

26:58.44
Bryce
That has sand in it right? like that can create a slippery surface so that would allow more things to open up where we might get more parks. We might get more leeway when it comes to partnerships with government agencies that were afraid to take on. Ah you know something in.

27:14.12
Craig
Um, yeah.

27:35.20
Bryce
Apparently Fitness based but also so dynamic. It’s like oh this might be a concern with injury. We’re scare. It’s scary to us because of liability. Maybe that will even the playing field where they’ll be accepting like well parkour is parkour but like everybody loves it. So let’s do it and it’ll.

28:17.40
Craig
Yeah, let’s make that happen.

28:11.16
Bryce
It’ll provide um again a lot more opportunities for you know people in my my range too who are like trying to make a career out of it and trying to coach and then kids will see that and then if they want to be parkour coaches. It’s something that they’ll be able to do without having to kind of. I Guess go through certain trials and tribulations we did. They’ll have more of a streamlined like internship route right.

29:12.88
Craig
Yeah, you know you mentioned internship and I was just thinking. There’s a lot to be said for the trail has been blazed. You know like. It’s None thing to go to a spot and you know my limited experience in New York City is like yeah I go to a spot and I have pretty good parkcore vision I look at things and then somebody shows them like mole I hadn’t even noticed that and not because it’s ridiculously out of my ability but just because it’s so much easier to like embrace a challenge when somebody else has. You know, tapped on the shoulder and point it and these kids that you’re talking about if they see parkour at a younger age than you or I did and they see well yeah, equipmenting the parker coaching is a thing I see parkour coaches at my school and the teachers talk to them like their peers and just normalizing all of those things. On 1 hand even I we all love like parkour is this you know, grungy out nobody pen over. It’s all like under the wire and out out of out of sight. Yeah, but that’s enabled by it being normalized.

30:53.36
Bryce
Oh there’s that segment of it too. There’s definitely that. But like we’re getting right right? because that’s the lifestyle that I think when you do it for a while. That’s what you eventually end up like you go to a jam when you sleep in a hammock in the gym because.

31:39.12
Craig
Um, yeah.

31:31.70
Bryce
You want to be around the parkour vibes. You want to be like that’s part of the thing you do at a parkour jam where you’re like you know you go and you know it’s three days of training and like hard. You know you’re gonna be sore and tired and you’re gonna be dirt. You’re gonna be dirt baggging it a little bit like but that’s the beauty of like being in that element of it.

31:59.18
Craig
You got to rip your hands right? but.

32:08.30
Bryce
Where now it’s just like you’ve been doing it like you’re in the you’re in the thickest of what like parkour is but kids will have a way to a window to that through parkour coaches or parkour peers in their daily lives or. Showing them like oh yeah, no like I don’t just coach you like these are the kind of events. We also do like there’s an Apc and World Chase tag like then it opens the door for like wait. You mean you don’t just I don’t just have to be a bar like I could use parkour to potentially be athletic or go and it’s like um.

33:08.46
Craig
Are you.

33:25.24
Craig
Yeah, yeah, you’re like you little look at this over here. You’re like you’re like take up the museum Now there’s a whole wing. You know there’s a whole wing for this over here. Yeah.

33:27.22
Bryce
Right? right? and I think that’s going to allow this to grow in a way where it’ll give back to us. Um, and I don’t think we’re going to have to worry about losing the authenticity of it. Um, because. If Madonna can reinvent herself as many times as she has then parkour is gonna be fine. We got Modis we got store. We got team fat. We got all these guys pushing the envelope and then we got guys who still are pushing the envelope like Dom Tomato Phil Doyle um

34:16.15
Craig
Ah, and a.

34:39.24
Bryce
You know Daniel Illabbaca is still able to throw down. Um, so it’s like we have all these staples where it can be reinvented but then even the ones that.

34:58.26
Craig
Are.

35:10.76
Bryce
Created the you know that brought the the marble stone to us to chip away at even those people are still like training their way and they don’t feel ostracized because their way doesn’t matter if it’s different from the dynamic free running way because at the end of the day. The mentality is all shared. Um, and I think that’s also part of the beauty that it’s never really gonna get parkour. Never really gets old to you. Um I think what happens is maybe you just it’s hard like with all things maybe sometimes we don’t find as much joy from what? ah. We originally did when we started but I don’t think that’s the activity thing I think that’s something within us because sometimes the fire for parkour dims and then it’s flickering and then sometimes it’s you know, like ah it looks like California in the summer and then others. But then you know so but um.

37:03.70
Craig
Well, all too soon speaking pushing.

37:05.22
Bryce
With any practice that’s just on the practitioner 2 to go through. But yeah I’m just I’m really happy that it’s making waves the way it is and like I’m really happy that there are kids seeing the bigger picture of it too.

37:48.36
Craig
I hate to say it. But I’m watching our time fly past and now there were things we had good had talked about some other topics and there’s so many things we can talk about. However, this doesn’t have to be the only one of these that we ever do um, definitely need to do a part 2

38:02.34
Bryce
I’m down to do a part two as well. Um I just don’t have the I just don’t have the room 100% right now. Holy time myself.

38:26.80
Craig
But tonight ah so I will just say and of course the final question 3 words to describe your practice.

38:35.94
Bryce
Patience. Fun.

39:01.34
Bryce
Joyful I’m gonna go with those that’s those I would say those are 3 that I try to best describe my practice as like when I go out and and I do parkour those are the 3 even if it’s just to hang out with the parkour people.

39:36.50
Bryce
Those are the 3 things I try to make sure that I get away from training. Those are the 3 staples to me now. Let’s definitely do a part 2 Okay.

40:05.86
Craig
Terrific well Bryce. Yes, thank you so much for taking this time this evening I’ll see you around.

40:02.42
Bryce
Thank you, have a good one.