047. Lynn Jung: Full transcript

Craig: Welcome to the Movers Mindset podcast, where I interview movement enthusiasts to find out who they are, what they do and why they do it.

Craig: In this episode, Lynn Jung discusses Brighton, what it means to her and how moving there affected her life. She unpacks how she approaches training, her movement background and her journey of injury and recovery over the past few years. Lynn shares how she came to Freerunning, her current projects and her involvement with Storm Freerun and XDubai.

Craig: Hello, I’m Craig Constantine.

Lynn: Hello.

Craig: Lynn Jung is a professional Parkour athlete and coach, and the sole female member of the renowned Storm Freerun. Originally from Luxembourg her diverse movement background includes gymnastics, dance and circus, in addition to parkour. Lynn performs and competes around the world and is a sponsored athlete with XDubai. Welcome, Lynn.

Lynn: Thank you.

Craig: Lynn, I had a chance to see you and some of your friends on the beach a little bit and some of them were working on flips and things, and it was really, I think it’s a privilege to go and visit people that we interview, and I’m wondering, can you share a little bit of how you think of Brighton and the people that you train with? I know you have a close-knit group of friends. Can you just unpack that for people who are listening to get a feel for what is Lynn doing on a daily basis?

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Three words to describe your practice

Craig: And of course, the final question. Three words to describe your practice.

Lynn: I’d say patience, it’s the first word that comes into my mind after two years of struggling with an injury. I did learn how to be patient. I had no choice.

Lynn: Then I would say passion. I’m very passionate about what I do. I do believe that if you’re not passionate about something, it’s impossible to stick with it and do a good job. I think you only do a good job if you actually do it with heart. So I think I’m very passionate about what I do.

Lynn: And the third thing, how would I describe my practice, I would say it’s very social. Even though I’m a very individual person and I do like my quiet, I think my practice most of the time is very social. When I think about training it usually comes with thinking about hanging out with people that I really like, so, even on days I don’t train, I still join that practice maybe to hang out. It’s just my… pretty much my whole life evolves around movement and I’m very happy that that’s the way it is.

Craig: Thank you very much, Lynn. It’s been a pleasure.

Lynn: Thanks for having me.

046. Jean Lam: Full transcript

Craig: Welcome to the Movers Mindset podcast where I interview movement enthusiasts to find out who they are, what they do and why they do it. Today, Jean Lam reflects on how she became interested in fitness and eventually joined the industry, her love of movement and what sports and activities she’s involved in now. Jean discusses corrective exercise and shares her insights on programing, motivation and scope of practice. She goes into injury and rehab before explaining how she keeps up with coaching best practices.

Craig: Hello, I’m Craig Constantine.

Jean: Hi, I’m Jean Lam.

Craig: Jean Lamb is a fitness professional and has been in the field for nearly two decades. Her wide array of certifications has allowed her to work with all ages and abilities from children to senior citizens. Jean has worked with many different areas of fitness and types of movement, most recently as a ski instructor at Liberty Mountain as well as in the aerial silks and the PK move board.

Craig: Welcome Jean.

Jean: Thank you.

Craig: Jean, in the introduction I just skipped over super highlighting all of the various certifications and group physical classes you’ve taught because you’ve done so much. It’s almost impossible to summarize in a couple sentences. So could you maybe first unpack a little bit some of your background and just what really interests you about movement?

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Failure is part of the equation

Craig: Jean, I know I’m jumping around, but is there… imagine you’re a time machine. And could you have gone back and told yourself something back on the sofa to speak figuratively, that you think might’ve gotten you off the sofa sooner or something that would’ve motivated you?

Jean: Yeah, I think that failure is part of the equation. If you start something… if everything you do guarantees success, you’re not going to ever expand and do more. Also find something that’s really fun to do. So back in high school you have to go to PE and you’re doing these whatever things that you absolutely hate and there’s nothing really fun about it. And if you find something fun, this is what I tell my clients to find an activity you enjoy doing and you’re not really working out. Like I said, like the aerialists, I know they’re doing pull ups, they’re doing crazy amazing things. But no, they didn’t plan to do it. This is just their fun activity. So really find something that you really enjoy.

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On corrective exercise

Craig: Is there anything else that you want to share that you want to talk about related to training or…

Jean: Yeah, so in my younger days it was like let’s go as hard as you can. How many pull ups can I do and how many push ups can I do and more is better. And as I’ve gotten older I’ve realized too, I’ve become a corrective exercise specialist that our daily living is really causing a lot of problems with our bodies and until we fix those we really can’t safely be doing those other activities, especially as we get older. So I want to say at this point 70% of my workout is probably mobility and prehab type things. And then 30% is go out. All heart as hard as you can. But it’s all in moderation.

Jean: But I do feel a lot stronger now than I did 10 years ago. I can do more pull ups, I can… and there are better form than they were.

On her discovery of parkour

Jean: So then when I discovered parkour, I thought when doing pull ups I’m doing all these really cool things that are really strong but let me do something with it. So it was really fun to take that and actually be useful like the whole parkour thing. Be strong to be useful. So now I was useful. I could do something fun and climb over walls and use my pull up strength and do things that are different than just doing a pull up.

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045. Frank Mejia: Full transcript

Craig: Welcome to the Movers Mindset Podcast, where I interview movement enthusiasts to find out who they are, what they do, and why they do it. In this episode, Frank Mejia discusses PK Move and Urban Evolution, and the path to how and why he became a coach. He reflects on his experience with World Chase Tag, explaining the game and its intricacies. Frank shares his thoughts on travel and the role it’s played in his journey before wrapping up with his thoughts on competition.

Craig: Hello. I’m Craig Constantine.

Frank: And I’m Frank Mejia.

Craig: Frank Mejia is an athlete and coach with PK Move and Urban Evolution in Alexandria, Virginia. He was on the USA team for the 2018 World Chase Tag Championship. When he’s not chasing (or getting chased,) Frank likes long walks on the beach, smooth jazz, and traveling to share parkour. Welcome, Frank.

Frank: Glad to be here.

Craig: Frank, I think the best place to start it’d be to talk about your role within PK Move and Urban Evolution.

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Thoughts on competition

Craig: Right. We’re talking about competition here, so I’m wondering… You have obviouse experience in them, so I’m wondering if you want to give me some of your ideas on competition in general like as a philosophical thing. What do you think of competition in the context of parkour or parkour in the context of competition? Whichever way you want to do that.

Frank: Let’s see. Just competition itself with the context of parkour, I think it is very well done if done with the right people I think mostly because the first time I competed really was in the first I guess EPC, which is the Boston Qualifier for NAPC, and the first time I went there, I was like, “I’ve never really competed. I think I can maybe do good. Let’s see what happens.”

Craig: What could go wrong?

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On his journey to become a coach

On his journey to become a coach

Craig: Frank, can you take me back to maybe before you became a coach, before you started, before you really had the idea of, “I’m going to do this. I’m going to work on it. I’m going to pursue it.” How did you get from being, I want to say, just someone who trains? Lots of us, including me, are just people who train, but how did you get from that and like turn that passion into a passion for education and working with seniors?

Frank: It was kind of incidental in a way because what I have to do for some of my schooling was I had to do a project that we called Senior Project, and essentially, what you had to do is you choose a topic they wanted to study, and then from there, you would have to give a presentation at the end of the year with like all these notes and pretty much all your research of the topic, and I chose parkour. So with parkour, one of the things that you need for the project is you actually need a professional in the field they need to be able to like consult with.

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Extraordinary Movement

When we move through the world we can move in an ordinary or an extraordinary way. Ordinary movement is easy; it follows established paths; and it is boring. Extraordinary movement requires excellence, knowledge, and independence. When I talk about movement, I am talking about extraordinary movement because it is much more interesting. Movement—whether that is Parkour, ADD, Freerunning—is a celebration of freedom in the context of an unforgiving reality that cannot be ignored. The philosopher Ayn Rand warned, “We can ignore reality but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.” John Locke observed, “The only defense against the world is a thorough knowledge of it.” And Aristotle explained, “We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then is not an act but a habit.

These ideas form the foundation of movement: pay attention to reality, learn as much as you can and practice. With parkour as with just about everything in this world, the true beauty of the practice can be appreciated fully only by taking a deeper dive into it. This means we have to understand not just the physical aspects of movement but the mental and philosophical basis for movement.

As a mastery discipline—something that can be practiced for a lifetime with continued improvement—movement focuses more on the journey than the destination. Understanding the values, interests, and challenges in the minds of the best practitioners is the best way of showing the path of movement in a meaningful and accessible way. Our podcast, with its audio format and transcripts, naturally emphasizes the mental and psychological aspects of movement

The podcast brings out the more intellectual elements of movement. My goal is to emphasize the value that movement and movers create and develop through their practice. In pushing the limits of human potential, movers demonstrate objectively that such achievements are possible. Since the physical aspects of practice can be directly observed through images and videos, the visible part is already well covered. But I believe the mental aspect is where the real magic happens, and it is less well covered because it is not spectacular. A flashy video will grab your attention, excite you and even get you to try some new things, but to get really good at movement you need a deeper understanding.

When you listen to the podcasts, I hope you will notice a distinct difference in our approach. Our goal is always to show the guest in the best possible light. We aim to illuminate and showcase their values, ideas, and principles in a way that makes them accessible and relevant to the listener while showing the proper respect for their achievements. Each interview is a collaborative effort with the guest. Our shared goal is to clearly communicate ideas that will be useful to each listener in the context of their personal journey of exploration.

Yogi, martial artists and chess masters often describe how much they learned about life from in-depth practice and mastery in their disciplines. We hear similar sentiments from musicians, sculptors, painters, hunters, and chefs. Movement as a mastery discipline is no different. A big part of its value comes from the lessons it teaches us about life and reality. Knowing your own strengths and limitations is critical. Reality is unforgiving. Physics always works and is important. You cannot fake competence. Courage is required to overcome self-imposed limitations. The list of lessons is limited only by our ability to think and to understand movement.

I am passionate about creating and promoting rational discussion. Describing and illuminating the ideas behind extraordinary movement and human exceptionalism can help us all to improve our experience and appreciate the richness and beauty of life. So, in that spirit, I invite your questions and comments.

(This was a presentation I gave at Gerlev International Gathering in 2018.)