The idea of selecting three words is an amazing tool. A few years back, Yann Hnautra spent significant time traveling in the United States teaching, but also trying to get a sense of what Art du Déplacement meant there, to those people practicing. Off to the side, at most of the events, someone (who was not Yann) took little cell phone videos where people were asked a series of questions. The idea was that he would be able to watch the videos to get a different viewpoint than he would when running events and training with people; Little moments of private candor as it were.
I was standing, being recorded, when I was introduced to this question. Something like, “how would you describe your practice in three words?” Honestly, I have no idea what I said—sometimes I think I should ask Yann to find my video, but I’m terrified to hear what I said even just those few years ago.
Craig: Welcome to the Movers Mindset podcast, where I interview movement enthusiasts to find out who they are, what they do, and why they do it. Today, Sean Hannah takes us deep into curriculum development, how he researches, the importance of games and fun, and developing with specific audiences in mind. He discusses his role in designing the curriculum for the PK Move Study with Marymount University, and the specific challenges it presented. Sean shares advice on coaching and designing for adults and seniors before unpacking his current personal curriculum and goals.
Craig: Hello. I’m Craig Constantine.
Sean: Hi, I’m Sean Hannah.
Craig: Sean Hannah is a coach, athlete, and curriculum developer, currently based in Colorado. Before moving out West, Sean spent years as the lead coach at Urban Evolution in Alexandria, Virginia, developing their curriculum. Sean’s background in rehab and personal training also led to his involvement in the PK Silver Program development, and he is a member of the PK Move Board. Sean dislikes shoes and being on the ground. Welcome, Sean.
Sean: Happy to be here, Craig.
Craig: Sean, I mentioned in the introduction that you’re part of the PK Move Board, but it think it’s also important for people to know that you were really critical, according to Nancy and her team you were really critical in the curriculum development for PK Silver. I think that people may not be aware of the level of work that went into getting from the idea of how to teach Parkour to people, to making it actually be something that can be done reproducibly and safely, so I would love to hear more about how much of that you’d want to unpack.
Craig: And of course, the final question, three words to describe your practice.
Melissa: So we’ve mentioned side projects a couple of times. And I think side projects are really cool, and not something I’ve gotten to experience in any other kind of work situation. So credit to Craig for that, it’s basically allowing us to kind of and paying us to use our time to pursue something we’re interested in. And that could be adjacent to Movers Mindset and what we’re working on or it could not be, but it’s finding something that we’re passionate about, and kind of almost like a personal, yeah, professional or personal development, a growth project. So finding something that we care about that we want to pursue, that we’re being supported, kind of by Craig and the Movers Mindset project to do and to pursue, which is a really, really unique and awesome opportunity, I think.
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Craig: So I tell everybody, and I hope everybody out there gets this from wherever you work with. If you’re not making mistakes, like regularly, like maybe you want to 5, 20% of the time, if you don’t make mistakes, you’re not like, what are you doing, you could be replaced by a program, if you can, if you’re doing it perfectly all the time, you’re not being challenged, you’re not growing, you should always be having things that are challenging you or problems you have to solve.
Melissa: That brings us to like the pushing and pulling work, because we kind of, it’s like the pushing and pulling each other in a sense. Do you want to go into that since you’re the kind of mastermind behind that, the delusionary?
Craig: Glad you brought that up, because that’s one of the main things about the Movers Mindset project as a whole that I’m really passionate about is creating these connections between people, the idea that everybody would love to have not just friends, like, “I want someone to go have an ice cream or a beer with,” but like to actually have a chance to sit down and talk about things and explore fun ideas. And I think a lot of people don’t have a space to find that online. So they might go to Facebook, or they might go to the social media. But it’s kind of tricky if you find a Facebook or a social media page that you really like, it’s tough, like you can’t really like interact with the storror guys too much, it’s really hard to like, get a one on one relationship with somebody.
Craig: Welcome to the Movers Mindset Podcast, where today, we’re doing something a little different. In our special 50th episode, I’m joined by some of the Movers Mindset team, Kristen Swantek, Miguel Chero and Melissa Way. We discuss what each of us does, how our roles fit together, and how far we’ve come as a team. We explain working remotely, the freedoms and challenges that come with it, and some of the strategies we use to make it work. We each share our favorite episodes, things we’ve learned and what each of us finds to be special about the project.
Craig: Hello, I’m Craig Constantine.
Kristen Swantek: Hello, I’m Kristen Swantek.
Melissa Way: Hi, I’m Melissa Way.
Miguel Chero: Hi, I am Miguel Chero.
Steve Zavitz shares his passion for parkour photography and film: from his transition to freelancing, his process, and what he likes to create. He discusses the changing style and culture around parkour videos, and the impact social media has had. Steve reflects on the evolving culture, audience, and growth of parkour, and what that means for communities today.
Craig: Cool. Alright, so I’d like to end with the final question. But I’ll give you a little setup. Normally, people wouldn’t hear all the setup, but the setup is, you can answer the question any way you want. You don’t have to have three specific words, when I ask you to describe your practice, sometimes people give me three words and unpack them. Sometimes people have no clue. But they kind of talk around little paragraphs come up with some like three ideas. And it’s fun to hear the thought process. But you can do anything you want with the question it’s just meant to give you a last chance to do whatever you want. So the final question is three words to describe your practice.
Ryan: Absorb, reject, add.
Craig: I was hoping you were going to go back to that.
Ryan: Bryan Armstrong, the CEO of Coinbase had some quote recently, or last year sometime that is like, “The majority of people are actually aren’t actually going to buy crypto, they’re going to earn their first crypto through there’s all these different websites and apps and stuff that like, people don’t realize that all this stuff already exists or is like about to be here. And if you’re the early adopter, not only is that like fun and interesting and cool, and you get to teach your friends and parents and stuff.
Ryan: But if you were to just … who knows what’s going to happen, but if the more you learn about this, for most people, the more confident they get that if invest in it, or earn it or hold on to it. For five, 10 years, it’s going to be significantly more valuable than it is now. And we’re potentially looking at one of the biggest wealth transfers in the history of humankind. And I want to see the young people in Parkour, like young people in general or all people, like the younger people are going to be a little more willing to-
Ryan: How can we match up Parkour and crypto? So we just tried our first experiment, I guess, there’s a thing called bounties.network. And this is built on Ethereum. And what it allows you to do is essentially say, I need this. And so mostly right now it’s being used for like software development, like I need somebody to help me code this thing. And I’m willing-
Craig: There’s my definition of done.
Ryan: And here’s my definition of done. And here’s what I’m willing to pay. It’s nothing like super revolutionary like this is Fiverr. This is some of these other kind of websites-
Craig: Except the implementation is completely new. But how it works.
Ryan: Yeah, so this is decentralized. And what we just did was we put up #Parkourbountyone. And we want to try to do more of these, to see where we can take it. But Parker bounty one was essentially, we wanted to open it up to the locals of Apex communities first, or make it easier on them at first. So we said, all all you got to do is you can take a new clip or an old clip. So even out of towners have clips from apex, you just got to post it up on your Instagram, say something you learned at Apex and submit it to this page or this link on bounties.network. And we’re going to take our top five favorite ones, and you guys are going to get 0.2 Ether which is I believe at the time it was worth about 30 bucks.