Thomas Droge and Brenda Kahn: Story, history, and self-perception
What are the ways in which personal narratives, self-perception, and mentorship influence an individual’s path to growth and transformation?
If you want to know someone, have a conversation with them. But if you want to know who they really are, have a conversation with their partner. Thomas Droge and Brenda Kahn share their story and how they’ve changed over the years. They explore the idea of our internal narratives and self-perceptions, finding your own way, and the human experience of time. Brenda and Thomas discuss ways to change the world and the importance of investigating your history.
“I’ve been writing a memoir. And I had a really fascinating experience with it, because I got all the way through it, and realize that everything that I told myself about myself was totally not true. […] the stories we tell ourselves, literally, inform our lives in a way that have real consequences in the real world. And when you take a step back and look at yourself and decide, wait a second, you know, they actually did a lot of really cool things, you know— this was kind of amazing. So then I had to start the whole thing over again from this whole different slant.” ~ Brenda Kan (38:24)
This conversation explores how personal stories and perceptions shape our lives and how reevaluating them can unlock growth. Brenda reflects on writing a memoir and discovering that her past achievements were much more significant than she initially believed, illustrating the transformative power of storytelling. Thomas complements this idea by discussing mentorship and the value of learning from both older and younger generations to stay connected with evolving perspectives.
“And he said, for me, one of the things that I think people always miss in mentorship is that you need mentors who are younger than you, to share with you what’s changing in the world, and keep you connected to what’s happening. And mentorship is really a two way street, of the younger generation, connecting you with the world and what’s happening and showing you what’s changing from their point of view. To teach you so that you don’t get stuck in your static view of the world.” ~ Thomas Droge (33:17)
The discussion also touches on movement practices, mindfulness, and self-discovery, connecting these to larger themes like time perception and narrative transformation. By examining personal experiences, they highlight the importance of self-awareness and adaptability in personal and professional contexts, as well as the role of mentors and shared knowledge in shaping these journeys.
Takeaways
Mentorship’s reciprocal nature — Younger mentors help connect older generations to evolving perspectives, making mentorship a two-way exchange.
Personal narrative’s power — Revisiting and reframing personal stories can completely transform self-perception.
Movement as insight — Physical practices like Tai Chi or Parkour help reveal inner narratives and foster growth.
The interplay of time and perception — Understanding time through different lenses offers tools for navigating personal transformation.
Storytelling and compassion — Approaching one’s story with compassion opens up new possibilities for growth and healing.
Resources
Dolores Huerta Foundation — Civil rights organization founded by Dolores Huerta.
Taoism and Dragon Gate Teachings — An overview of the Dragon Gate Taoist philosophy.
(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)
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